I have now clue why, but i’m gonna try to answer it anyway. After the early 90’s alternative movement (which was some of the best music i’ve ever heard by the way) bands started just copying all of it. Bands like nipplecrack and any other band that is really labeled as ‘alternative rock’ but is nothing more than shitty pop rock, really ruined alternative rock.
And then you gotta talk about indie bands. Now i havent really listened to much indie, but you know what, some of it really isn’t bad. Its just that some of these indie bands try to be so damn hipster that they dont even make decent music. They just try to make it sound so different that you just get a bunch of happy worthless bullshiite.
Ok, so OLD Alice in Chains is one of my favorite bands, but I dont know about this William Duvall guy. I just dont think that AIC’s new album will be anything close to what they had with Layne Stayley.
Another 90’s band that is my favorite is Nirvana. I can pretty much listen to any one of their songs and like it. BUT IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SMELLS LIKE TEEN SPIRIT. Thats not even a good song. If you really like Nirvana, then you’ll like the songs like “old age”, “marigold”, “verse chorus verse”, stuff like that, which isnt so blown out of proportion.
Now dont get me wrong, just because songs are popular, such as “in bloom”, “all apologies”, “come as you are”, and “about a girl”, doesnt mean i dont like them. These really are good songs, but its just that people will like maybe 2 or 3 songs, and then call themselves Nirvana Fans. After Nirvana, all the so called ‘alternative singers’ tried singing with the grit in their voice like Kurt Cobain did, and they sounded terrible doing it. Kurt is the only one that could do it good.
And then you have bands like wolfmother, who have a decent album, but its nothing new. Any band can release shiz that sounds like older shiz, but they just had no uniqueness.
Bands that arent usually played on the radio nowadays usually seem to be the best. For example, in 2007, Dinosaur Jr. released Beyond, which in my opinion was a pretty good album. But i never have heard any on the radio, except maybe on 92.3. And i dont like emo, ska, punky shiite like a lot of popular music today.
I sure hope to god that a good band can come out with a new sound that i like, because im running out of music to listen to. Oh, and by the way, Silversun Pickups is actually a pretty decent band that is modern. Im surprised i actually liked their sound.
Sacktack92
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February 12, 2009 at 4:09 am |
I didn’t know Nickleback was alternative rock. I thought it was mainstream crap.
February 12, 2009 at 9:25 pm |
they try to be alternative, but they end up as mainstream with the rest of the shits
February 14, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
As far as my music collection goes, if it it sounds good- I’ll listen to it. I don’t really care if its mainsteam or not. It’s just that the mainstream stuff currently is very good. They have made it too easy to be a “rock star” and I think the “rock fans” may be turned off because they didn’t progress the way earlier bands do. They lack the street cred that would have been gained had they progressed as slow as their prodeccors. People are too picky.
The term “Alternative rock” what is that mean anyway? This was just some name the industry decided to put on punk and grunge or anything other than hip/hop that wasn’t hair metal in the late 80’s early/90’s. I mean the Chilli Peppers and the Smashing Pumpkins are big bands but they are considered alternative rock.
Bands like Nickleback, Puddle of Mudd, Limp Bizkit and Godsmack seam to be more the creation of a marketing department and particularly Fred Durst and MTV. You can sell anything if you put it on television in front of 60 million people. I think one of the reasons they failed is because people’s taste in grunge had already run dry. So in 99 or 2000 when all these bands were coming on to the national stage they were judged harshly. Some were just a cheap imitation.
You mentioned the Silversun Pickups. I like them too but they are too closely tied to their influences. That album that made them popular sounds like they took Smashing Pumpkins Siamese Dream and mixed it with My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless, two of the better albums of that era and of the last 30 years. Still, where are the Silversun Pickups on the album?
I think you are dead wrong about Nirvana’s Nevermind. You have to understand that when that album came out, rock music was pretty shitty. Hair metal had run its course and people were already past growing tired of it.
The album Nevermind was an “11 out of 10”. It was raw, powerful, and unlike the hair metal bands, Kurt Cobain was honest and real. He was not a prop. Every song on that album was great. It came out when I was in the 6th grade I was more addicicted to that album than Jerry Garcia was to smack in the late 60’s. I have listened to that album a million times over the past 18 years since it was released. I even listened to that when I was mowing the lawn. Shit. Not that good. Get off the meth kid!
February 15, 2009 at 12:00 am |
I never said anything about nevermind not being “that good.” I agree with you that every single song on that album could have been released as a single and had been a hit. The only thing that i mentioned that you may have taken out of context is that i said something about Smells like teen spirit. Its not that i dont like the song, its just that, its so blown out of proportion, and that it became so popular, that most of the people that were making it popular didnt even get the message of nirvana’s music. Im sorry if you took that part the wrong way, i didnt mean to undermine nevermind in any way, i was just saying that the song is not as good as everyone thinks he is. Even kurt said that he was getting tired of playing it (rollingstone interview), and that they considered it a pixies rip-off with the quiet/LOUD dynamics.
February 14, 2009 at 10:48 pm |
mainstream isn’t very good-correction
March 2, 2009 at 5:20 am |
“Rock” music as you call it started to suck canal water after about 1974. By around 1979 “rock” music was pretty much dead and in its grave. Every time I hear the term “alternative” I have to ask, “alternative to WHAT?” If the alternative to dogshiz is horseshiz, who cares?
You act like rock music started in the 90’s when it was more or less in the early 50’s with more or less Chuck Berry and Little Richard, two great writers/innovators/performers/musicians who did more with one or two songs than all the acts you’ve listed put together did in their entire careers.
There is no such thing as “modern rock music.” It never “got” modern. It never will. So just be content with the alternative or STFU.
March 2, 2009 at 8:51 pm |
ok, so nowhere in this did i say any thing about rock music starting in the 90’s. THe only thing i said really started in the 90’s was the mass of the alternative rock scene, (i didnt make up the label, so dont ask me why its called alternative). And as i do agree that chuck berry and little richar were two of the most influential people for rock music, i do think that early 90s rock music wasnt bad. I dont see how its not classified as rock music. If you can tell me why it is not rock and the other bands are, then i may agree, but you didnt really back anything up there.
March 3, 2009 at 1:36 am |
Sack originally started this post as, “Why does Modern Rock Music Suck So Bad,”. To sum it up, I think possibly “modern rock” or alternative or indie rock, or whatever you want to call it HAVE RUN OUT OF THINGS TO COPY. When Cobain lifted the Pixies for Smells Like Teen Spirit, it was cool. In fact the Pixies gave him their blessing after the fact. However, Today, not only is there nothing left to copy, the people doing the copying are not good enough musicians to copy the good music. Ex- Nirvana did a better job being influenced by the Pixies than others did on them. Puddle of Mudd and others is a poor immitation of Kurt Cobain.
People have been “stealing” from earlier musicians since the beginning. Little Richard and Chuck Berry were great innovators but the Rolling Stones and Led Zepplein were much better SALESMAN of their music than they were. Record sales back this up. Its the big difference. Little Richard and Chuck Berry were better salesman of the blues musicians that they were influenced by and so on down the line.
In my opinion, there is always something good to listen to, you just have to look harder. It’s just that its not on the radio like it was 15-16 years ago. As long as you can bang your head, who really cares.